Victor Conte: I told you so about doping at the Olympics and off-season testing in the Carribbean

Victor Conte rides back into town, so to speak, to admonish the Olympics about track and field doping and off-season testing in the Caribbean.  Conte sends this warning to the New York Daily News.  Conte certainly was in the know about doping.  We would suspect he continues to be on the inside with his connections.

Obviously this is a controversial subject.  We make no attempt to judge Conte or his content.  However, it is out there, and should be acknowledged.

On December 12, 2007, I advised WADA's Dick Pound to routinely send disguised drug testers to Jamaica, and to begin doing so immediately. I had received information about a specific drug supplier - WADA received this person's name, address and phone number - who was allegedly working with elite track athletes. I also explained to Pound the importance of "offseason" testing and that testing at competitions is ineffective. The offseason is when athletes use anabolic steroids in conjunction with intensive weight training and develop the explosive strength base that serves them throughout the competitive season.

However, Pound stepped down as the Chairman of WADA just two weeks after our meeting. It now seems that others working with WADA, who actually conduct investigations and provide drug testing, have failed to act upon the information.

Interesting.  Conte, the mastermind behind BALCO, would seem to know the inner workings of the doping circles.  Conte continues:

I have no evidence of doping by any of the winners of medals in Beijing, but when times begin falling like rain, questions arise, especially when the record-setters are from countries such as Jamaica and other Caribbean nations where there is no independent anti-doping federation. In the women's 100 meters, for instance, four of the eight finalists in the event were from such countries. Jamaican women swept all three Olympic medals: Shelly-Ann Frasier's winning time of 10.78 seconds is blazing fast, and reflects a drop from a best of 11.31 in 2007 to 10.78 in 2008, an improvement of more than five-tenths of a second in a single year and about five meters faster than before.

Conte is taking notice, as other have noted, of the remarkable achievements in a short time of the Gulf of Mexico runners.  And he warns of possible monkey business...again this doesn't convict any athlete .(more after the jump)

Here is the remainder of Conte's letter, which is very interesting:

I have no evidence of doping by any of the winners of medals in Beijing, but when times begin falling like rain, questions arise, especially when the record-setters are from countries such as Jamaica and other Caribbean nations where there is no independent anti-doping federation. In the women's 100 meters, for instance, four of the eight finalists in the event were from such countries. Jamaican women swept all three Olympic medals: Shelly-Ann Frasier's winning time of 10.78 seconds is blazing fast, and reflects a drop from a best of 11.31 in 2007 to 10.78 in 2008, an improvement of more than five-tenths of a second in a single year and about five meters faster than before.

Jamaica's Usain Bolt won the men's 100-meter gold medal in a shocking world-record time of 9.69, which is almost unbelievable since he shut it down before the finish line. Richard Thompson from Trinidad and Tobango won the silver medal in a personal best time of 9.89. Once again, five out of the eight finalists in the men's 100-meter race were from an area where there is minimal out-of-season testing: five-of-six 100-meter medals were won by athletes from Caribbean countries without independent anti-doping federations.

Again, I have no knowledge that these individuals were involved in wrongdoing. All I know is that they and other athletes come from regions where minimal offseason testing is administered.

My message to Pound was based on the simple premise of doping in combination with strength training during the offseason. Here's how it works:

• The IAAF - track's governing body - claims to rarely collect offseason samples for drug testing in Caribbean countries, mainly collecting out-of-competition (OOC) samples between competitions during the European track circuit from May until September of each year. In my opinion, this is basically a waste of funds and the same as in-competition testing because there is no routine offseason testing from October to January, when athletes who are cheating use steroids in combination with intensive weight training.
• Testing at competitions - and in between - is flawed because athletes who are using drugs have already tapered off. The IOC claims to be doing 4,500 tests in Beijing, but there have been only a handful of positives. In 2007, at the World Track and Field Championships in Osaka, Japan they did more than 1,000 drug tests and had zero positives. The testers are basically wasting their money. Testing at competitions is more about propaganda. They should spend at least 50% of the available funds doing offseason testing on the home soil of targeted athletes, such as those in the Caribbean who are winning all the medals.

There is a desperate need for each of the Caribbean countries to have an independent and fully functioning anti-doping federation. Until that is the case, the sprinters from these countries are going to continue to be under a cloud of suspicion.

I believe that these athletes need to be frequently drug tested on a random basis during the offseason, so that the cloud of suspicion can begin to move on. It's my opinion that more effective drug testing in the Caribbean will help to restore the credibility of entire sport of track and field.

Comments

[Stephen Gunter]

IAAF: Bolt Tested At Least 11 Times in 2008

Jamaican Usain Bolt, who competes in the 200-meter Olympic final Wednesday night, has been drug-tested at least 11 times in 2008, according to Nick Davies, a spokesman for the world track and field federation (IAAF).
Bolt was tested four times out-of-competition by the IAAF and three times in-competition, Davies said. He also has been tested four times by the International Olympic Committee--including three blood tests--since he arrived to China, Davies said.
Davies said Bolt and fellow sprinter Asafa Powell are among the 22 elite Jamaican track and field athletes included in the IAAF's targeted testing program. The IAAF spends $2 to $3 million annually on the program, Davies said, to ensure that athletes in nations such as Jamaica and Kenya that do not have national testing programs get tested frequently. Powell, Davies said, has been tested 13 times this year, six out-of-competition by the IAAF, three in-competition and four by the IOC.
Davies said IAAF medical officials assemble longitudinal profiles of the athletes' blood work to look for abnormalities that suggest doping could be going on.
Bolt's and Powell's results "look OK," Davies said. "If it didn't, there would be massively targeted testing on them, simple as that."

[wittgenstein]

As per my comments elsewhere, although they have done testing at the games and a few other times (when?), it is the off-season that he is referring to. I'm not alone in noticing the abundant Caribbean dominance in sprinting. I don't think this is genetic superiority, rather, there is something else afoot. As I said, three Jamaicans in male and female 100 meter finals...etc. etc. I'm worried that we have entered an era when it may be impossible to manage this problem. Bolt has talent...but this much? Frasier and Bolt dropping their personal times so much in so short a time? The world records by so much? Maybe I'm just cynical, but I'll believe it when I have more proof that they are clean.

[Jamaicangirl]

It is strange that the man who single-handedly made track and fields a sport of scrutiny finally has a conscience. What is it with Mr. Conte? Is it the fear that he may be beaten at his own games? Or is he upset that he is not able to supply the US team with steroids anymore? The thing is we are finally seeing the talent of other nations since the playing field is leveled. I am amazed that Mr Conte has so much free time so he can pay such close attention to Jamaican and other caribbean countries. Why, is he in search of a supplier?? Please, some things are just genetics. American athletes aren't the only ones with good genes.

[white knight]

I think his point is that the Jamaicans are cheaters and they are. Wake up morons, its a great story but its a farce. Its a joke to think in 1 year these people can go from 0 to hero.

[white knight]

Bolt was scared to run a 9.5 100 so he pulled up. It looked stupid enough as it is. GUILTY as charged and its not close.

[ambrown]

Conte's point is taken about out-of-season training. However, instead of blowing an imaginary whistle on people he says he is not sure about, why doesn't he reveal to the world the list of athletes that he had been helping with the designer drug, including any Jamaicans, where applicable.

It is amazing to the someone of the ilk like victor conte making comment as those above. Between October to June Victor conte and several etal need to visit and stay in Jamaica and watch our high school championship which is the breeding ground for our senior athletes. Our high school boys record stand at 10.1 and this is age 17- 19. Our female high school record stand at 11.3. The 400 meters record is 45.76.

Please check on Jamaica history and tradition before any comments

Oh for those who wish to know about Bolts Bio please view.

2002 World Junior Championships Kingston, Jamaica 1st 200 metres 20.61

2002 World Junior Championships Kingston, Jamaica 2nd 4 × 100 m relay 39.15 NJR

2002 World Junior Championships Kingston, Jamaica 2nd 4 × 400 m relay 3:04.06 NJR

2003 World Youth Championships Sherbrooke, Canada 1st 200 metres 20.40

2004 Carifta Games Hamilton, Bermuda 1st 200 metres 19.93 WJR

2005 Central American and Caribbean Championships Nassau, Bahamas 1st 200 metres 20.03

2007 World Championships in Athletics Osaka, Japan 2nd 200 metres 19.91

2008 Reebok Grand Prix New York City, United States 1st 100 metres 9.72 (WR)

2008 Beijing Olympics Beijing, China 1st 100 metres 9.69 (WR)

[wateva]

When are you fools gonna release that victor conte doesnt know shit. If Jamaicans where doping you mark my words they would have been caught along time ago. ALot of european countries were also caught in the blaco mess not just america so why wasnt there any caribbean athletes involved? Why dont people challenge victor and ask why didnt the CARIBBEAN athletes take the balco juice too. It was common knowledge among the "insider" in track and field. You think the caribbeans didnt know about the clear lol!!!. There should have been a bunch of caribbean athletes on victor client list? Why dont you MORONS ask victor why he didnt sell the juice to the caribbeans as well? Caribbean athletes are so stupid that after witnessing the disgrace that rocked the U.S. T&F, in this post balco era, they went and found some NEW JUICE to start whipping the american ass. If that is true and they DEAR do that shyt knowing that everubody is under a microscope then they got BALLS OF STEAL!!! The biggest dope dealer on the block should have had tons of EVIDENCE and not just SUSPISIONS on the caribbean athletes. Why dont you MORONS as him why he DOSENT and DID he offer it to them????????????????????? Victor please answer the question why didnt the caribbean athletes take the jucie too???? So let me get this straight you DONT have evidence of them doping but your SUSPICOUS because of the TIME that they are running so your CONCLUSION is it must be dope. AGAIN I ask vic to answer my question, why didnt you sell the Jamaicans the juice too? or is it that they REFUSED??????????????????

[wateva]

Nobody is portecting Jamaica. Jamaic ahas no political power and NO MONEY. So if these caribbean athletes where doping victor conte should have a LIST FILLED WITH NAMES OF ATHELES FROM THE CARIBBEAN. He admits he's got no evidence. I wonder why? Trevor graham is Jamaican. So caribbean athletes could have easily been supplied the juice too seeing as though there was a well known Jamaican coach. YET VICTOR DOESNT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF CARIBBEAn ATHLETEs DOPING. JUST SUSPICION?????????? this mad suppied athletes around the world DOPE but he ha sno evidence of caribbean athletes. WHY IS THAT VICTOR CONTE. ARE THE CARIBBEANS THAT GOOOOOOOOOD AT CHEATING. WE CAN CHEAT BETTER THAN THE AMERICANS CAN, IS THAT WHAT YOUR SAYING VIC??????????????????????????????? THEY AHVE BEEN TESTING THE HELL OUT OF BOLT AND ASAFA IN COMPETITION AND OUT OF COMPETITION BY INDEPENDENT LABS TO WADA AND IAAF STANDARDS SO SPEAR ME THE DAMN B.S. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THESE!!!!!!

Victor Conte needs to go to hell. Caribbean sprinters and Caribbean born sprinters have been dominant in the Olympic sprint events since the 1940's. Majority of the Black athletes that represent Britain, France and Canada are from the Caribbean or Caribbean parentage. Victor "the CUNT" wasn't complaining when his drugged up US athletes were beating the world. Go back to the late 80's and look at who the Olympic finalists were; I believe it was '92 Olympics that had 6 Jamaicans in the finals although they were representing other countries. Go to Penn Relays; Jamaican High Schoolers hold most of the records and completely dominate those games; Jamaican sprinters have been written about in Sports Illustrated time and time again. The playing field is now leveled since the athletes are now heavily tested. Track & field is a major past time in the Caribbean and we are winning fair and square. Richard Thompson of Trinidad & Tobago just graduated from LSU and won many NCAA medals for them; I guess he was drugged up then; only a couple mnths ago. Go to Jamaica and see how naturally fast those kids are; attend our annual Boys & Girls Championship and you will see more talent than many countries send to the Olympics; Jamaica has been the US main sprint rival for many years; it's just that the field is leveled and we now are getting the gold and not silver as we generally did. Infact since the BALCO scandal Jamaica has been awarded multiple gold medals that were stripped from the US. Some of you little rednecks who post your little racists rants can go to hell. Jamaican & other athletes from the Caribbean are heavily recruited by US Colleges. Why do you think that is so? They hold many NCAA records. The majority of Jamaican athletes such as Usain Bolt and Asafa Powell are now staying in Jamaica to attend college rather than be worn down by the US collegiate athletics system. Admit it, Victor cannot understand how such a small island nation can be successful without his help. Victor take your drugs and stick them up your a..hole; they say misery love company. What a miserable loser. For those of you who are so cynical; the majority of Olympic athletes have always been drug free; I suppose you can't fathom that one can achieve with simple hard work. Go to Jamaica and see how much work the Jamaicans put into training; they are at training from 5 A.M.; they train on grass, use torn up weight benches, rusty weights and never complain. It is not what you have, but how you use it. Usain Bolt has been a prodigy since age 14; he currently holds records in the world junior division and world youth divisions. Except for injury, the rest of the world would have known about Usain Bolt a long time ago; those of us from the Caribbean have known about Usain for many yrs; the rest of the world has just been invited to the party. Jamaica has been among the top 5 heavily tested nations; their athletes were tested over 32 times in Beijing in the first week; Usain has been tested over 15 times by JAA, 11 times by the IAAF and WADA. Usain has woken up the other small nations of the Caribbean; they now realize they can be successful staying at home and representing their own country; what are you going to do then? Caribbean domination will continue in London 2012; infact that will be like coming home to the islands. By the way, the US women won the 4x400m relay because of you guessed it, a Jamaican - Sanya Richards. In the words of Bob Marley, "Yuh a go tired fi see wi face, but yuh can't get wi outta di race, mi seh yuh draw bad card."

[Chris Acer]

A particular disparity in voiced suspicion about the performances between Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt causes much concern, for me. I hardly hear questions about the likelihood of drugs being involved with Phelps’ exploits; but, curiously, my ears keep registering murmurs about such a possibility for Bolt’s results.
One of the main things that make this apparent disparity of suspicion so alarming to me is the fact that Phelps’ handlers have floated the idea that he was diagnosed as suffering from ADHD. My question is: was that revelation made to counter any possible finding that he has performance enhancing substances in his system? ADHD medications are performance enhancing! And, nobody should be excused. It is obvious that anybody can get that diagnosis in America!
What would be the result of some wins that were earned by the slightest of margins, if Phelps wasn’t assisted by drugs that boosted his concentration – a benefit his competitors were denied?
Bolt is from a poor country where one cannot reasonably expect that he has the technology, that can mask prohibited substances, available to him; but, that doesn’t calm his detractors. And, his and his handlers’ assurances that he even avoids supplements have not been enough.

Is that fair?

[Rollo]

Victor is a bitch ass ho. He is just jealous of Jamaicans. If he knows something about Bolt, spill it. Bolt improvement is no different from Michael Johnson's in 1996. I don't hear him accusing Micheal of cheating. Is it because he is American? Micheal ran 19.32 after running 19.66 at US trials. Bolt ran 19.30 after running 19.67 a few weeks earlier. Bolt is much faster than Michael ever was. Michael's improvement was unusual for a guy as old as we was when he broke the world record. Point the finger at your own guy before you point at someone else.

[wittgenstein]

Wow. The comments here are full of capital letters, epithets, and anger. Ben Johnson said that most of the top-flight athletes in sprinting are on steroids. Period. Don't you find it remarkable that somehow human beings have physically changed enough in twenty or thirty years to achieve times and distances like we see now? Yes, there is better training and equipment and surfaces. But I don't remember times in sprints dropping a half second or more in a year at the very top level, yet now this is happening to a small group of athletes....and there is a local area that seems to be 'blessed' with this sudden improvement.
The writer above who said look at your own athletes was absolutely right...ours are just as dirty. Some take years to get caught (e.g. Marion Jones, Pettigrew et al). The German sprinter who complained got a lot of flak...but those who are on the ground competing have more of a clue than those who sit in their armchairs and write epithet laden posts.
Look at the bodies of sprinters from sixty, fifty, forty, thirty years ago. Then now. That isn't just weight training my friends. I ran on a track with Jim Ryun. His times and efforts were purely his own doing. Just worked hard...natural gifts. And he didn't always succeed. Anyone who has participated in track, especially the sprints, has a good idea of maximum performance...they watch as their own bodies hit a barrier of propulsion, turn over and lactic acid build-up. To change that barrier is unbelievably hard. At a certain point it requires something beyond your internal physical limits to get to performance levels that you were not capable of before. Adrenaline can boost performance occasionally beyond the norm, but consistently extraordinary times, especially with swift improvement in olympic years, is not normal. Martyn Jones of Great Britain is six foot six, one inch taller than Bolt. Jones runs well, but has a normal physique, and is limited by this and normal endurance issues. What would happen to him if he began using steroids? Look at Barry Bond's early pictures and then later in his career. Mark McGuire the same. That isn't just weight training. The reaction times etc also improve...hence the ridiculous home run numbers. Now that they came down on steroids, home run numbers are normal too. Hmmm.
If Bolt is not using, then he is a genuine mutant of the species. It is possible. I doubt it, but it is possible. If true, however, his 'gift' is so far above others that it renders competition meaningless. As I said in another post, perhaps all track coaches will begin recruiting mid-sized basketball players to run sprints.
The anger at Conte was amazing. The guy did dumb stuff...yup. But his comments on warning about a specific dealer, which were never followed up...well, folks, he's one who would know. No use complaining. Testing during season, as he said, won't find anything useful.
Look. I know this gets people riled up. But the stories about rusting equipment, lousy fields and the like sound a bit like going to school in snow uphill both ways. I doubt that these athletes are quite so deprived. If a particular population group is descended from a certain area, and the former is suppposedly great at sprinting because of it, then the latter should be as well. In equal or much greater numbers...and with the same 'lack' of equipment etc. But they aren't. A few good sprinters come out of Nigeria and the like. Why?
Armin Hary was a modest sized fellow with a fast start, but also had acceleration...long legs for his size. How would he do today with training (weight and otherwise), better equipment and so on. I'd be curious to see. Dave Sime the same. Very minimal advantage training wise or otherwise. Steve Williams...man, I would like to see what he could have done with a fast start. Tommy Smith the same. Normal bodies with a gift...they didn't look like linebackers.
If your anger overwhelms your common sense, then cool off before posting. I might be wrong about the Jamaicans (and Caribbean in general), and if I am, my bad, as my kids say. But when at least three and probably four of the sub-9.8's are now identified as doping, well, you have to think that that's a pretty high percentage for a specific performance level. If Donovan Bailey (a Jamaican I might add) turns out to have been clean, my guess is that he was the greatest sprinter of all time. But...who knows. He had legs very long in ratio to body length, like Hary. Mennea might be a close second.
Anyway...I doubt that we are seeing some miraculous rash of wondrously gifted athletes. The other sad part of this is the egotistical posturing by these people, including the American 400 meter champ, Merritt. Embarrassing. After a while, the times don't seem to matter when those who are turning them in are so immature.

[Heppu]

Good stuff wittgenstein, excellent actually. I have followed top sports almost fifty years and it is evident that roids came to sprinting by 68. But talent has continuously a lot to do. East Germans doped heavily their sprinters but best they could get at 100 m was around 10.1. PEDs contribution to womens performance is way higher than with men. This we can see at present and with more reserved use of PEDs and lower level of performance in womens track sports. Who believes Marita Koch´s 400 m 47.6 can be broken!

One who believes Michael Johnson was clean must believe in Santa Claus too. All around him doped, how could the best one be clean. And remember his muscular body. No way..

[seeing isn't believing]

Ben Johnson's steroid record was never beaten for 14 years...and then it was only beat by 100th of a second. So, now you happend to have two Jamaican athletes (supposedly clean) who can destroy this steroid record...and we're supposed to believe that it was legit? It's not reasonable to believe that a "clean" runner can beat the steroid record (that's why everyone started taking them to begin with...so they could be competative). Don't forget, Ben (Jamaican born) also put his hand in the air prior to the finish line during his WR run. He was proven to be on steroids, they are all on steroids or something even better (the "NEW" line of steroids...they can't be detected and clear the system much faster). The formula is simple...One Potentially great athlete + Steroids + sophisticated blood doping + hard training = gold medals and World Records. Forumal 2 One potentially great athlete - enhancements - eliminated in preliminary heat.

See for yourself...and then, honestly, make an educated decision as to whether or not these guys are on the juice. I say 100% pure, unfilter, undetectable, lab produced juice.

This is a list of the who's who of steroids.

9.95 Jim Hines United States Mexico City, Mexico October 14, 1968
9.93 Calvin Smith United States Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA July 3, 1983
Carl Lewis United States Rome, Italy August 30, 1987
Zürich, Switzerland August 17, 1988
9.83[3] Ben Johnson Canada Rome, Italy August 30, 1987
9.79[3] Ben Johnson Canada Seoul, South Korea September 24, 1988
9.92 Carl Lewis United States Seoul, South Korea September 24, 1988
9.90 Leroy Burrell United States New York, New York, USA June 14, 1991
9.86 Carl Lewis United States Tokyo, Japan August 25, 1991
9.85 Leroy Burrell United States Lausanne, Switzerland July 6, 1994
9.84 Donovan Bailey Canada Atlanta, Georgia, USA July 27, 1996
9.79 Maurice Greene United States Athens, Greece June 16, 1999
9.78[4] Tim Montgomery United States Charléty, Paris, France September 14, 2002
9.77 Asafa Powell Jamaica Athens, Greece June 14, 2005
Justin Gatlin United States Doha, Qatar May 12, 2006
Asafa Powell[5] Jamaica Gateshead, England June 11, 2006
Asafa Powell Jamaica Zurich, Switzerland August 18, 2006
9.74 Asafa Powell Jamaica Rieti, Italy September 9, 2007
9.72 Usain Bolt[6] Jamaica New York, USA May 31, 2008
9.69 Usain Bolt Jamaica Beijing, China August 16, 2008

[wateva]

wittgenstein

Well I guess bolt must have been doping from he was a teenage just like phelps who broke a swim record at 15. This is real funny. I wonder how william knibb high school in Jamaica got access to the PEDS to give to usain win he was 15????? A poor ass school liek that that cant evven afford supplies for the students is gonna spend damn near millions of dollars for bolt to take PEDS because he started to blossom at 15 so that must have when it started huh???? YOU PEOPLE ARE OFFCIALY A BUNCH OF IGNORAMOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a little poor ass school like william knibb have the contacts to give bolt PED will I take my hat of to them. But people who are from Jamaica know what MORONS you all are. These ridcoulous theories that you all keep coming up with are getting worse and worse! You know NOTHING about Jamaica or the track and field system their. Why donT you MORONS go to JAMAICA and visit trelwany and wlliam knibb high school. Go to UTECH where the athletes train. You will see that you FOOLS dont know what the HELL you talking about. JAMICA dose not have the money or finance to give bolt no DAMN PEDS. Nor do the coaches have access to it or else they would have been getting the "CLEAR" from victor conte. So if you want to call us cheaters and we werent taken jack from victor conte then WHO the HELL is supplying the Jamaicans jice. Who else is manufacturing the clear only for the Jamaica to take so we can whip the amwrican ass?????????????????????????

YOU DUMB MORONS NEED TO ASK VICTOR CONTE WHY HE DIDNT HAVE ANY CARIBBEANS ON HIS CLIENT LIST!!!!!!!!!!

WE WHERE GETTING OUR BUTTS WHIPPED WHEN THE AMERICANS WERE ON THE "CLEAR". WE OBVIOUSLY WASNT JUICING THEN SO NOW THAT THE AMERICANS GOT BUSTED AND TRACK AND FIELD IS UNDER SERIOUS SCRUNITY WE CARIBBEANS ARE NOW GONNA GET JUICED UP SO WE CAN BEAT THE AMERICANS. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ben Johnson left Jamaica when he was 15 and later relocated to canada. he naver represented Jamaica and never hAd JamaicaN coaches soo why do you americans chose to bring up ben johnson. Yea he was Jmaaica clearly JAMAICA had nothing to do with him doping. He migrated to canada. became a canadian citizen and got doped up in CANADA. What dose ben johnson have to do with usain bolt you morons?

[wateva]

seeing isn't believing

Which country was been johnson running for CANADA. Was been johnson trained in Jamaica NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!!!

DID ben Johnson repesent Jamaica NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Where did he get his dope from CANADA!!!!!

YOu people are so desperate!!!!!!!!!! Your so desperately its not even funny!!!!!!!!!

If Bolts is on PEDS obviously MICHEAL PHELPS IS TOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wateva]

seeing isn't believing

Benjamin Sinclair "Ben" Johnson CM (born December 30, 1961) is a Canadian former sprinter, who enjoyed a high-profile career during most of the 1980s, winning two Olympic Bronze medals, and an Olympic Gold which was subsequently rescinded. He set consecutive 100 m world records at the 1987 World Championships in Athletics and the 1988 Summer Olympics, but he was disqualified for doping, losing the Olympic title and both records.

HE REPSENTED CANADA YOU IGNORAMOUS LOL. BECAUSE HE WAS BORN IN JAMAICA I GUESS HE IS AUTOMATICALLY A CHEATER LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jamaican]

Bolt has always raced far ahead of the pack.
I've seen him run since he was about 15 years at a national meet. Even then he was way ahead of the pack. So tell me was he on dope back then?
He has been around for years - you just didn't know about him.

Please come to our High School Championships early in the year.
You'll see.

Better book early.

[wateva]

seeing isn't believing

List of swimmers obviously on dope MICHEAL PHELPS

I WONDER WHAT DOPE MARK SPITZ WAS ON OR HE'S WHITE SO I GUESS HE JUST HAS NATURAL TALENT. ONLY THE BLACK MEN DOPE LOL!!!!!!!!

[seeing isn't believing]

Read this, not that it will convince anyone. No sense listening to an athlete who has been there.

Taken from the daily news...an exerpt from an article by Mike Lupica.

"The other day London's Daily Mail asked Johnson, stripped of that gold medal 20 years ago, if he thought today's top sprinters were still doping.

"How shall we put it to avoid being sued by everybody?" Johnson said. "OK, virtually all the big names, the winners, the stars all the fans come out to see….they're on drugs. Nothing has changed as a result of all the controversies, because without steroids it's not humanly possible to keep producing the performances."

Just because Johnson, a drug cheat who got caught on the biggest stage there is, says it doesn't make it gospel. But: There are seven guys who have run sub-9.8 in the 100 meters. Three of them ­ Johnson, Tim Montgomery, Justin Gatlin ­ have been caught doping. And Maurice Greene was named this year by a steroids trafficker who offered in court a $10,000 wire-transfer receipt as proof that he provided Greene with drugs."

[wateva]

seeing isn't believing

who was giving bolt at william knibb high school because he started kicking ass at 15. Was it you LMAO!!!!

WHo was supplying william knib high school in poor rural trelawny dope. It must have been you that why you sooooooooo sure the guy is on dope. He had to be doping from then to run 20.61 at 15. You must have been supplying him the dope lol!!!!!

YOU MUST HAVE BEEN PROVIDING WILLIAM KNIBB HIGH SCHOOL ALL THESE YEARS LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The 2002 World Junior Championships in front of a home crowd in Kingston, Jamaica, offered Bolt a chance to showcase his talent on the world stage. By the age of 15, he had grown to 1.96 metres (6 ft 5 in) tall, and he physically stood out amongst his peers.[3] He won the 200 m, in a time of 20.61 seconds, a new personal best.[8] As a member of the Jamaican sprint relay team, Bolt took two silver medals and set national junior records in the 4x100 metres and 4x400 metres with 39.15 s and 3:04.06 minutes, respectively.[9][10] Bolt's 200 m win made him the youngest world-junior gold medallist ever.[11] The flow of medals continued as he won another gold at the 2003 World Youth Championships. He set a new championship record in the 200 m with 20.40 s, despite a 1.1 m/s head wind.[12] Michael Johnson, the 200 m world record holder, took note of Bolt's potential but worried that the young sprinter might be over-pressured, stating: "It's all about what he does three, four, five years down the line."[13]

Bolt turned his main focus to the 200 m and equalled Roy Martin's world junior record of 20.13 s at the Pan-American Junior Championships.[3][14] This performance attracted interest from the press and his times in the 200 m and 400 m led to him being touted as a possible successor to Johnson. Indeed, at sixteen-years-old Bolt had reached times that Johnson did not register until he was twenty and Bolt's 200 m time was superior to Maurice Greene's season's best that year.[13] In his final Jamaican High School Championships in 2003, he broke both the 200 m and 400 m records with 20.25 s and 45.30 s respectively. Bolt's runs were a significant improvement upon the previous records, beating the 200 m best by over half a second and the 400 m record by almost a second.[3] Bolt was growing more popular in his homeland and Howard Hamilton, who was given the task of Public Defender by the government, urged the Jamaica Amateur Athletic Association (JAAA) to nurture him and prevent burnout, calling Bolt "the most phenomenal sprinter ever produced by this island".[13] As the reigning 200 m champion at both the World Youth and World Junior championships, Bolt hoped to take a clean sweep of the world 200 m championships in the Senior World Championships in Paris.[3] Bolt was pragmatic about his chances though and noted that, even if he didn't make the final, he would consider setting a personal best a success.[13] However, he was not able to compete because of a bout of conjunctivitis before the event. This ruined his training schedule, causing him to withdraw.[3]

[seeing isn't believing]

Why always the race card. Nobody is saying white people don't dope...that's rediculous. The point is that every dirty athlete is in question...including Phelps (which is more likely some type of blood doping). I hate to see the actual world record holders and gold medalists not getting their just due. These guys are thieves that steal the thunder that would otherwise not be theirs.

[wateva]

seeing isn't believing

EXPLAIN HOW HE COULD RUN A 20.61 BACK WHEN HE WAS 15. WERE YOU SUPPLYING HIM THE DOPE LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOUR SO FULL HATE ITS OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GENIUS EXPLAIN WHERE WILLIAM KNIB HIGH IN POOR ASS TRELWANY WAS GETTING THE DOPE FROM????????????????????????????????????

[wateva]

seeing isn't believing

where was willliam knibb high school getting the dope from to give him at 15. Have you ever seen footage of bolt running at a young age. Were you following him as a kid competeing at world juniors or carifta games, or boys and gils chamos in Jamaica. I bet your just some white american that just say him break a record on t.v and it really piased you off??

I leave you to your antics. Bolt better watch his FOOD. People like you would LOVE to put something in it lol.